Discussion in 'Public General Chat' started by Meemo, Aug 15, 2008.
Do you guys think this is a good or a bad thing ?
I have zero problems with it just like I have no problem with hackers its all in the persuit of knowledge
I pick locks a lot, it's fun. Mostly padlocks though, they're easy.
I also hack into cars, because I can. Usually because people leave their only set of keys in the car -.-
Something I've always wanted to do was pick up a locked bike and put it on the other side of town. Those stupid people who put a lock on their bike but don't attach the bike to anything really piss me off. What's the point of buying a lock if you're going to use it that badly.
I always carry a big heavy duty post office something paperclip. It normally holds thick heavy packs of letters together so it doesn't bend too easily. I can open 30 cheap padlocks a minute with that thing.
I also made a tumbler key but it doesn't always work for me, might have done something wrong...
I also have this bakers' dough chopping thing. It's a thin plastic card-like thing they use to seperate balls of dough. I cut it down to playing card size and use it mostly to cover the bottom card when playing cards.
It works nice to keep a door open or to slide it between the lock and the hole the lock goes in. Europe has a lot of old doors or badly made doors which can be opened by thrusting a card through the wood.
I should probably go be quiet now because many places do not allow owning, making or talking about burglary tools o.o
We don't use them for bad things, we just like playing with them.
I started playing with it around the age of 6 when an uncle opened a closet with a (back then, now it be crap) state of the art lock by dismantling the hinges instead.
One of the first things I learned was how to hack into police handcuffs. They're similar to padlocks, at least the ancient ones are.
This is actually worse than hacking as it destroys the security of the average joe's house/car/business. Institutional Locksmiths Organization of Canada fails to realize that the average criminal uses a hammer because he is going to break in anyway, and that access to information on how to break locks in 30 seconds empowers them and makes the breaking less detectable.
Its the difference between coming home and notincing that the house has been broken into and comming home and wondering where your HDTV went.
Remind me not to have anything of value locked around you.
In all honesty, I think that the argument that this makes it easier for burglars to burgle or whatever they intend to do is a logical fallacy. If a burglar wants to break into a private something there are more than enough ways that they can. If the bad guy wants to get into something he will find a way. Just because there are a lot of people with no ill intent doing it well does not mean that instantly burglars have access to some end all be all resource that they did not have before. Let's say that they somehow stop all of these people from doing what they do and somehow remove all of this "lockpicker's union" stuff from all sources of media. Guess what. Bad guys are still gonna do bad guy things and they are going to be just as good at doing it.
Very few people with the intent to steal want to take the extra time to pick the lock rather than smashing a window. People really only pick locks if they don't want to damage something, which is usually when it's your own stuff.
My mom can pick locks, but she only ever uses her skills on things that we own, or things that others ask her to open. It's cool because she was able to do stuff like open an antique desk to which the key has long since been lost, and retrieve some of our old family documents from it. I've always wanted to learn, because I think it would be really useful to know at times, and because I like the puzzle challenge aspect of it.
Think about it like this: you had a supersecret farming build and location in GW. Only a few people knew about it.
Then some guy makes it public and you go like CRAP, now they'll all come and then Anet is gonna nerf it!!
Same thing here. They make it public, everyone will know and the lockmakers are going to nerf it!!
Yea London, Ont.!!
This is a skill that I would really like to learn, I like puzzles and have always been fascinated with picking locks but never really learned how
More picks mean more locks, a pick doesn't make a criminal, the intent to steal does.
I say that people who plan to steel will always be interested, involved and inventive in ways to steal, but people who don't will fall to those inventive ways unless the inventive lockpicking is made public. If it's made public it will also reach the security companies and they usually either release new models or have a recall on old locks and update them. All the ruckus about Ulocks being pieces of crap made them change their design so they are better pieces of crap.
What I would like to see out of this thread is what locks are the safest from the lockpick hobby members, as far as I can tell it's a metal sheathed combo lock welded to a really fucking big chain.
Get a really big dog and only feed him human flesh.
Like the ones that hacked the old XoO site?
those were crackers
Hacker according to www.dictionary.com: "a microcomputer user who attempts to gain unauthorized access to proprietary computer systems."
Crackers do things like making keygens and cracks.
I think it used to be the other way around, then the term "hacker" started to encompass everything geeks do with computers.
As for lockpicking, it's a cool hobby, especially if you're into puzzles. Should they share that info on the net? Hell no. But sharing that info doesn't really make a would-be thief a master of unlocking. Lockpicking takes technique and a good set of tools (picks) that a locksmith develops over time and experience. It would probably easier for the thief to just steal the key and be done with it.
Isnt it a bit unnerving that theres 70,000 people who can walk off with your crap in a moment's notice and theres nothing you can do about it?
Already had it happened, not that unnerving if you have insurance.
thats out of how many million people in the U.S. and Canada? I like my odds still.
There are two types of hackers those who hack for the knowledge and challenge and those that are just going out to piss someone off. I do basic things and its alot of fun and a great challenge.