Basically, in ArcheAge we are coming up to a big change in priorities as a new continent is about to open. Lots of miners will be required to do an insane amount of grinding so that the entire guild can benefit from a guild castle - to give an idea of the scale of this, we need about probably over a million stone - when I use my entire reserve of "labor" over a 3 hour period I mine 1000 stone, and I'm max proficiency - to give an indicator of the effort we are going to be putting in. So I really want a XoO logo that reflects the pride of being a guild miner. I know it sounds geeky as hell, but I really want to reflect on the galleons, clippers, capes and everything else my pride and the other miners' pride in being a XoO miner doing it for the guild. A badge of honor. The current XoO logo is so near to the mark it's unreal, with the cog design and beaten metal, but if there could be a grey/stone/iron equivalent featuring a miners pick (without looking too much like asoviet flag!) it would be SO GREAT.